Less Pressure - Game Over

Game Information:

I did jump on Lauren with little to no evidence

I found scum in the process

Sue Sylvester wrote:Oh yeah, as for Noah town, let's face it, he voted a confirmed town. Unless he's as dumb as you seem to be, I'd guess as scum he wouldn't do that for fear of the retribution it could cause. 

As for that being what you're supposed to do during this stage of the game, yes, it's a series of reaction tests. However, just because of that doesn't mean you can do something and then just say "it's what I was supposed to do," or "it was just a reaction test," as your only reasoning for it.

Tina Cohen-Chang wrote:
The first bit is so WIFOM it hurts. An obvious troll vote in RVS such as that is completely meaningless. Technically everything is WIFOM, but that's for anther day. Also, even if it is WIFOM, that just means I can't use it to prove it to somebody else. I think it's enough to read them town for now. You asked why. That's my reason.

You're right that I lack evidence and you're right that saying "it was just a reaction test" can't be used as a blanket excuse. But the fact of the matter is town seemed content to dally about in RVS with the deadline rapidly approaching. Ok, so I'm right on all the reasons I name for saying you look bad. Anything more to say?

I really don't see why calling me dumb is necessary, resorting to personal insults really doesn't help. Scum and town will respond to shit like that equally. I had already begun to type out a pretty scathing response and it took a fair bit of self restraint to stop. How does this or a scathing response help the town at all? It just floods the thread with worthless information. And also, even aside from that, don't be so serious, it's just a game. 

I know you're clean and you seem to be a fairly decent player but just realize that with you as the only really competent (or so it seems so far) IC, the town will for the most part be looking up to you. Saying things like "if you fuck this up I'll be pissed" exemplifies a bit of an elitist attitude. Don't go all Feg in GE on us is all I'm saying. Buddying and repeating worthless information. And can confirm other IC is a nube, be nice to him. Also lol, tbf, I think Fege did pretty well. At least he made the game interesting!

Hopefully I've communicated my points in a levelheaded fashion. Mission accomplished. Now try again later but with better points.

Its Tina~sleepytime, night~~! Night! <3

Kitty Wilde wrote:Whoa girl. 3 times a day is pretty extreme, you don't even see people posting every day in some of the games on PO. Though we do only have a week for d1...everybody needs to come out and talk some. Don't be shy

As for Tina, a quadruple post right off the bat is very aggressive. Usually villagers go all out like that (although I would expect one of the ICs to do so) but you're the only one who has really posted content so far so it's hard to look at it in this isolation.

Kitty out.

Lauren Zizes wrote:I've never watched a single episode of Glee, so I guess I interpreted character-specific nuances as straight up fluff. My bad.

On the Noah thing I guess it's more direct opinion clash making me misinterpret the intent behind it. I can understand your viewpoint, but my own view on it simply seems to be that pulling shit like that as genuine scum would be far too bold for someone who we can probably (activity wise) assume is an inexperienced player (I know that's WIFOM to a degree in itself, but I'm working with what we got). 

The content in itself seems fine, but the intent behind it kinda bothered me. When you were saying stuff like 'You seem like a competent player', that began to ring alarm bells in my head as it could be seen as scum trying to play to the ego of a clearly proud player to try and lessen the heat on them (hell I've used this tactic myself before). So I suppose in a way your general tone and what I perceived as the intent behind your play was so strongly indicative of what I see as good defensive scum play that it rung a few warning signals for me. The intent behind your vote on me (incite genuine pressure, move Town out of RVS) is decidedly Town aligned though, I will concede that much, so I was probably a little hasty in saying you came out of it looking decidedly more scum.

On another note, my opinion shift came more from your responses than anything Sue posted (see above), and the shift in my post (such a bad mistake smh) came because of the way I was trying to get a post out and taking less time to ensure it was actually well constructed.

My posting style is probably far more indicative of who I am than I want it to be

Quinn Fabray wrote:Buddying Tina (at the time most active player and probably most town-ish player too)
Looking at # of posts instead of actual post content is lazy analysis
Mostly fluff posts/stating the obvious instead of actually thinking
Looking for villager instead of scum
^^ reasons why Kitty is scum


Noah voting is a null read IMO (likeliest explanation is that he simply didn't see the IC declaration, either way anything else about this is too WIFOM to suggest anything, suboptimal play from either town or mafia viewpoint)

I agree that Tina feels a little scummy (mostly from post 261 https://poanon.forumotion.com/t12p30-less-pressure-day-1#261 , among other reasons)

Too many people are lurking, which makes it harder to find scum. In other words, people need to post more!

I'd like it if Noah and Santana could post something of value, at least before the day ends.

Lauren Zizes wrote:@Quinn; This will be taken as solid buddying but your vote is really misplaced there and I don't understand. 'Usually villagers go all out like that' is a perfectly valid statement not indicative of alignment, if anything they're pretty much giving a town read on Tina (which I'd confer with). You're also skimming over the fact that they're outrightly saying 'We need to be more active', which is entirely town motivated and given you've only just started posting (with a pretty questionable alibi, given we were all PM'ed on the PO forums about this), and given the fact you're providing almost no basis for throwing someone under the bus you're if anything looking scum.

Unvote, Vote Quinn Fabray. Until you expand more on your reasoning, your action can only be seen as scum motivated in my eyes.

The Tina-Sue exchange struck me as strange and honestly made Tina lean scum in my eyes (waiting for OMGUS claim!) The fact they threw a WIFOM down to try and implicate Noah to an extent was weird as hell and reeks of zealous scum in my eyes. I also want to point out that Tina seemed pretty comfortable shifting into 'fluff posts' which irritated me somewhat.

I know you're clean and you seem to be a fairly decent player but just realize that with you as the only really competent (or so it seems so far) IC, the town will for the most part be looking up to you. Saying things like "if you fuck this up I'll be pissed" exemplifies a bit of an elitist attitude.

Buddying Tina (at the time most active player and probably most town-ish player too)
Looking at # of posts instead of actual post content is lazy analysis
Mostly fluff posts/stating the obvious instead of actually thinking
Looking for villager instead of scum
^^ reasons why Kitty is scum


Noah voting is a null read IMO (likeliest explanation is that he simply didn't see the IC declaration, either way anything else about this is too WIFOM to suggest anything, suboptimal play from either town or mafia viewpoint)

I agree that Tina feels a little scummy (mostly from post 261 https://poanon.forumotion.com/t12p30-less-pressure-day-1#261 , among other reasons)

Too many people are lurking, which makes it harder to find scum. In other words, people need to post more!

I'd like it if Noah and Santana could post something of value, at least before the day ends.